Hilbert vs John Jay: Softball Program Comparison
Two D3 programs. John Jay lists $16,730 less in out-of-state tuition; John Jay graduates 8 points more of its students.
Which one is right for you?
Neither school is better in the abstract — they are better for different athletes. These are the differences big enough to actually decide on.
Lean Hilbert if…
- On the figures we hold, Hilbert does not lead John Jay on any measure above. If you are choosing between them, the deciding factors are the ones no table holds: how the staff talks to you, where you would sit on the depth chart, and whether you would want to be there without softball.
Lean John Jay if…
- You would be in-state: John Jay is $24,680 cheaper per year on published in-state tuition than Hilbert.
- Finishing the degree is the priority: John Jay graduates 8 percentage points more of its students than Hilbert.
What it costs to go there
Published sticker price from IPEDS. Almost nobody pays it — athletic, academic and need-based aid all come off the top — but the gap between two schools is a fair read on the gap between two offers.
| Measure | Hilbert | John Jay |
|---|---|---|
| In-state tuition & fees | $32,150 | $7,470 — John Jay leads on this measure: lower published in-state tuition |
| Out-of-state tuition & fees | $32,150 | $15,420 — John Jay leads on this measure: lower published out-of-state tuition |
| Room & board | $14,200 | — |
| Est. in-state year, all inTuition & fees plus room & board. Excludes books, travel and any aid. | $46,350 | — |
| Est. out-of-state year, all inTuition & fees plus room & board. Excludes books, travel and any aid. | $46,350 | — |
What you leave with
Federal College Scorecard figures for all students at the institution, not softball players specifically. Read them as a signal about the degree, not about the program.
| Measure | Hilbert | John Jay |
|---|---|---|
| Graduation rate | 47% | 55% — John Jay leads on this measure: higher share of students finishing their degree |
| Median earnings, 10 years after entry | $48,309/yr | — |
| Median debt at graduation | $24,750 | — |
| Debt as a share of year-10 payMedian debt divided by median earnings 10 years after entry. Lower is easier to pay back. | 51% | — |
Getting in, and what you'd walk into
Admissions and size. A coach can support your file, but at most schools they cannot admit you — the academic profile below is the bar you still have to clear.
| Measure | Hilbert | John Jay |
|---|---|---|
| Admission rateLower means more selective — harder to get in, but not automatically the better fit. | 97% | — |
| Total enrollmentNeither is better — it is the difference between a lecture hall and a seminar table. | 973 | 13,510 |
| Where it is | Hamburg, NY | New York, NY |
The softball program itself
Division and conference set the ceiling; the postseason record and staff tell you what the program has actually done with it.
| Measure | Hilbert | John Jay |
|---|---|---|
| Conference | AMCC | CUNYAC |
| Head coach | Dan Opera | Sarah Piening |
How you actually get in front of them
Camps and questionnaires are the two channels a recruit controls. Where a program runs its own camp, that camp is usually the shortest path to being evaluated by the staff that would recruit you.
| Measure | Hilbert | John Jay |
|---|---|---|
| Recruiting questionnaire | Yes | Yes |
| Program on X / Instagram | Yes | — |
Scholarship money, honestly
Both programs sit at NCAA Division III, so the scholarship rules are identical: 0 (no athletic scholarships). There are no athletic scholarships at D3 — by rule. But D3 schools often award generous academic merit and need-based aid that can rival an athletic scholarship elsewhere.
What to do about it this week
Questionnaires are exempt from NCAA contact-date rules, so you can submit one at any age. Do both, then follow with a short email to each staff.
Hilbert
Open the recruiting questionnaireCamps we track
None listed right now. Camp schedules go up through the winter — check the program's own site before ruling it out.
John Jay
Open the recruiting questionnaireCamps we track
None listed right now. Camp schedules go up through the winter — check the program's own site before ruling it out.
Hilbert vs John Jay: common questions
- Which school graduates more of its students, Hilbert or John Jay?
- John Jay, at 55% against 47% at Hilbert (IPEDS, 2023-24). That is the whole student body, not the softball roster.
- Do Hilbert and John Jay offer softball scholarships?
- Both play at NCAA Division III: 0 (no athletic scholarships). There are no athletic scholarships at D3 — by rule. But D3 schools often award generous academic merit and need-based aid that can rival an athletic scholarship elsewhere.
- How do I contact the coaches at Hilbert and John Jay?
- Both programs run a recruiting questionnaire, and that is the right first move — it is exempt from NCAA contact-date rules, so you can submit it at any age. Fill out both, then follow with an email to each staff.
Cost, graduation and enrollment figures from IPEDS (U.S. Dept. of Education, 2023-24). Earnings, debt and admission rates from the federal College Scorecard. Postseason results from the NCAA Division I softball tournament records, 2021-2026. Rankings from NCAA.com and U.S. News & World Report. Figures describe the institution, not the softball roster.
We work hard to keep all data for Hilbert and John Jay accurate and up-to-date, but we sometimes miss changes or get something wrong.
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