Saint Francis vs St. John Fisher: Softball Program Comparison
Two D3 programs. St. John Fisher runs $2,348 less per year; St. John Fisher graduates earn $4,843 more a decade out.
Which one is right for you?
Neither school is better in the abstract — they are better for different athletes. These are the differences big enough to actually decide on.
Lean Saint Francis if…
- You want to play in June: Saint Francis has reached 3 more NCAA tournaments than St. John Fisher since 2021.
- You want the stronger program on paper: Saint Francis rates solid against developing at St. John Fisher.
- Admissions is the part you are least sure about: Saint Francis admits 77% of applicants.
Lean St. John Fisher if…
- The number on the bill matters: St. John Fisher lists $2,348 less per year in tuition and housing than Saint Francis, and neither charges by residency.
- You are weighing the degree as an investment: St. John Fisher graduates earn about $4,843 more per year a decade after enrolling.
- You want to leave with less owed: median debt at St. John Fisher is $3,750 lower than at Saint Francis.
- You want the more realistic path to a roster spot: St. John Fisher rates accessible to recruit against moderately competitive at Saint Francis.
What it costs to go there
Published sticker price: tuition from the federal College Scorecard, room and board from IPEDS. Almost nobody pays it — athletic, academic and need-based aid all come off the top — but the gap between two schools is a fair read on the gap between two offers.
| Measure | Saint Francis | St. John Fisher |
|---|---|---|
| Tuition & feesBoth schools charge one rate regardless of residency. | $44,000 | $41,190 — St. John Fisher leads on this measure: lower published tuition |
| Room & board | $13,880 — Saint Francis leads on this measure: lower room & board | $14,342 |
| Est. year, all inTuition & fees plus room & board. Excludes books, travel and any aid. | $57,880 | $55,532 — St. John Fisher leads on this measure: lower total cost per year |
What you leave with
Federal College Scorecard figures for all students at the institution, not softball players specifically. Read them as a signal about the degree, not about the program.
| Measure | Saint Francis | St. John Fisher |
|---|---|---|
| Graduation rate | 74% | 74% |
| Median earnings, 10 years after entry | $62,101/yr | $66,944/yr — St. John Fisher leads on this measure: higher median earnings a decade out |
| Median debt at graduation | $27,000 | $23,250 — St. John Fisher leads on this measure: less debt carried out the door |
| Debt as a share of year-10 payMedian debt divided by median earnings 10 years after entry. Lower is easier to pay back. | 43% | 35% — St. John Fisher leads on this measure: debt is a smaller share of what graduates earn |
Getting in, and what you'd walk into
Admissions and size. A coach can support your file, but at most schools they cannot admit you — the academic profile below is the bar you still have to clear.
| Measure | Saint Francis | St. John Fisher |
|---|---|---|
| Admission rateLower means more selective — harder to get in, but not automatically the better fit. | 77% | 66% |
| Total enrollmentNeither is better — it is the difference between a lecture hall and a seminar table. | 2,835 | 3,674 |
| Where it is | Loretto, PA | Rochester, NY |
The softball program itself
Division and conference set the ceiling; the postseason record and staff tell you what the program has actually done with it.
| Measure | Saint Francis | St. John Fisher |
|---|---|---|
| Conference | PAC | Empire 8 |
| Program strengthCommitBound rating from division, conference level, postseason record and staff stability. | Solid | Developing |
| Recruiting difficultyHow hard it typically is to earn a roster spot here. | Moderately Competitive | Accessible |
| Head coach | Bill Vasko | Bari Mance |
How you actually get in front of them
Camps and questionnaires are the two channels a recruit controls. Where a program runs its own camp, that camp is usually the shortest path to being evaluated by the staff that would recruit you.
| Measure | Saint Francis | St. John Fisher |
|---|---|---|
| Recruiting questionnaire | Yes | Yes |
| Program on X / Instagram | Yes | — |
Scholarship money, honestly
Both programs sit at NCAA Division III, so the scholarship rules are identical: 0 (no athletic scholarships). There are no athletic scholarships at D3 — by rule. But D3 schools often award generous academic merit and need-based aid that can rival an athletic scholarship elsewhere.
What to do about it this week
Questionnaires are exempt from NCAA contact-date rules, so you can submit one at any age. Do both, then follow with a short email to each staff.
Saint Francis
Open the recruiting questionnaireCamps we track
None listed right now. Camp schedules go up through the winter — check the program's own site before ruling it out.
St. John Fisher
Open the recruiting questionnaireCamps we track
None listed right now. Camp schedules go up through the winter — check the program's own site before ruling it out.
Saint Francis vs St. John Fisher: common questions
- Is Saint Francis or St. John Fisher cheaper?
- On published price, St. John Fisher is cheaper — about $55,532 a year in tuition and housing, against $57,880 at Saint Francis. That is sticker price; athletic, academic and need-based aid all come off it, so ask both coaches what an actual offer would look like.
- Which school graduates more of its students, Saint Francis or St. John Fisher?
- Both report a 74% graduation rate (College Scorecard).
- Do Saint Francis and St. John Fisher offer softball scholarships?
- Both play at NCAA Division III: 0 (no athletic scholarships). There are no athletic scholarships at D3 — by rule. But D3 schools often award generous academic merit and need-based aid that can rival an athletic scholarship elsewhere.
- Which is harder to get recruited by?
- Saint Francis rates moderately competitive against accessible at St. John Fisher. This program offers good opportunities for dedicated student-athletes. Travel ball experience and solid academics will strengthen your candidacy.
- How do I contact the coaches at Saint Francis and St. John Fisher?
- Both programs run a recruiting questionnaire, and that is the right first move — it is exempt from NCAA contact-date rules, so you can submit it at any age. Fill out both, then follow with an email to each staff.
Tuition, graduation, earnings, debt and admission rates from the federal College Scorecard (U.S. Dept. of Education, released June 10, 2026). Room and board, enrollment, and graduation rates at two-year colleges from IPEDS (2023-2024). Postseason results from the NCAA Division I softball tournament records, 2021-2026. Rankings from NCAA.com and U.S. News & World Report. Figures describe the institution, not the softball roster.
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